They continued the tradition of many of their predecessors by having a large family of one son and nine daughters.
Mary Henrietta Steward
In addition to these children I have found death notices for another three, all boys, who died in infancy:
The family records such as the Birthday Books give appropriate details such as marriages and births of children for many of the offspring of Charles and Mary.
This covers the details relating to the descendants of Charles and Mary, with reference to their marriages and their children. Where details of further generations are known, their story will be continued separately.
Charles was born in Copdock, Suffolk and Mary in Great Yarmouth, Norfolk. We have no record of them until their marriage in Great Yarmouth in 1851. We know that the Josselyns lived in Colchester from as early as 1855 and so probably resided there from the time of their marriage.
They must have maintained close contact with Charle's family as in 1858 Mary was involved in an accident near Copdock:
The brewing connection is probably explained by the Steward family's majority share-holding of the Norwich based brewery of Steward and Patteson (ref 4), which was to become one of the larger breweries in England. Steward & Patteson's strength was in their ownership of public houses and at one stage they were one of the largest owners of pubs in England, mainly in East Anglia.
Mary Josselyn's father, Arthur Steward was the Yarmouth agent for Steward and Patteson from 1845 and her uncle Timothy (1796-1858) was the managing partner from 1832 (ref 4, p24).
In about 1863 S & P established agencies in Colchester and Ipswich (ref 4, p40) and there is sufficient circumstantial evidence to say with some confidence that Charles was the manager of these agencies.
The following advertisement in 1867 adds to the evidence:
The Colchester agency was shut down in 1893, the year that Charles died. In 1919 J.A.W. Josselyn was the manager of the Ipswich agency (ref 4, p128) on a salary of £460, the 4th highest salary paid in the company.
There is another brewing connection in the family, seemingly unconnected to the Stewards: Arthur Wade Cooper, the husband of Charles' daughter Elizabeth, was a brewer in Swansea in 1881.
The following photograph is almost certainly of the Josselyn family and was probably taken about September 1888.
After Charles' death Mary apparently lived with members of her family. In 1901 she was living (or staying) with her brother in Great Yarmouth and in 1903 she was living in Upper Norwood in London (possibly with the Robertsons who were living in that general area). Mary died on 19 Nov 1910, aged 82.
The 1871, 1881 and 1891 census information for the family is below. It should be noted that this information was taken directly from the original census forms. Differences from the published census transcriptions are due to the numerous errors in the transcriptions.
|Name||Age in 1871||Birthplace||Rel.||Occ.|
|Charles Josselyn||43||Copdock, Suffolk||Head||Brewers agent and solicitor|
|Mary H Josselyn||43||Yarmouth, Norfolk||Wife|
|Mary A Josselyn||18||Colchester, Essex||Daughter|
|Henrietta Josselyn||17||Colchester, Essex||Daughter|
|Augusta Josselyn||16||Colchester, Essex||Daughter|
|Elizabeth Josselyn||15||Colchester, Essex||Daughter|
|Bertha Josselyn||14||Lexden, Essex||Daughter|
|Eleanor Josselyn||13||Lexden, Essex||Daughter|
|Rosalie Y Josselyn||11||Lexden, Essex||Dau|
|James A W Josselyn||7||Lexden, Essex||Son|
|Marian R Josselyn||2||Lexden, Essex||Son|
|Emily Josselyn||1||Lexden, Essex||Daughter|
|Elizabeth Woodrow||24||Wymondham, Norfolk||Servant||Nursemaid|
|Name||Est. birth year||Birthplace||Rel.||Occ.|
|Chas. Josselyn||abt 1828||Copdock, Suffolk||Head||Solicitor|
|Mary H. Josselyn||abt 1829||Gt Yarmouth, Norfolk||Wife|
|Mary A. Josselyn||abt 1853||Colchester, Essex||Dau|
|Henrietta Josselyn||abt 1854||Colchester, Essex||Dau|
|Eleanor Josselyn||abt 1858||Colchester, Essex||Dau|
|Janet R. Josselyn||abt 1860||Colchester, Essex||Dau|
|James A.W. Josselyn||abt 1864||Colchester, Essex||Son||Law Clerk|
|Marion J. Josselyn||abt 1869||Colchester, Essex||Dau|
|Emily Josselyn||abt 1870||Colchester, Essex||Dau|
|Edith Barnes||abt 1865||Elmstead, Essex||Servant||Housemaid|
|Sarah M.A. Hale||abt 1856||Elmstead, Essex||Servant||Cook|
|Name||Age in 1891||Birthplace||Rel.||Occ.|
|Josselyn, Charles||63||Copdock, Suffolk||Head||Solicitor & Brewery Agent|
|Josselyn, Mary H||62||Great Yarmouth||Wife|
|Josselyn, James A W||26||Lexden, Essex||Son||Brewers Clerk|
|Josselyn, Marian R||22||Lexden, Essex||Dau|
|Josselyn, Emily||21||Lexden, Essex||Dau|
|Cockrell, Carlotta E||44||Elmstead, Essex||Servant||Cook|
|Smith, Alice M||23||Ovington, Suffolk||Servant||House Parlour maid|
John records him as a Brig. Major in the R.H.A, however in the Census he is recorded as a Law Clerk in 1881, Brewers Clerk in 1891 and as 'Living On Own Means' in 1901. There are three Josselyns in the army list - A.H., F.J. and J.E. - but no J.A.W.
They had three children and the daughter of Alice from her first marriage also lived with them.
James Arthur Waylen Josselyn|
(Mrs) Alice Maud Brettingham (nee Wallis)
(8 Oct 1893-1961)
|Chas Arthur Steward|
(17 Dec 1898-)
(23 June 1905-)
|Name||Age in 1901||Birthplace||Rel.||Occ.|
|James A W Josselyn||37||Colchester, Essex||Head||living on own means|
|Alice M Josselyn||32||Chester, Cheshire||Wife|
|Violet L Brittingham||13||Brentwood, Essex||Stepdau|
|Hetty E Josselyn||7||Colchester, Essex||Dau|
|Charles A S Josselyn||2||Colchester, Essex||Son|
|Emma L King||32||Rattlesden, Suffolk||Servant|
|Ellen Partridge||22||Newton, Suffolk||Servant|
|Ellen J Warren||21||Colchester, Essex||Servant|
And in 1919 (aged 56) J.A.W. Josselyn was the manager of the Ipswich agency of Steward & Patteson and so it can be safely assumed that much of his working life was with S & P.
If James is the person in the photograph taken at the ranch in Argentina however, it could be possible that he was working there in the late 1880s - early 1890s, perhaps representing an investment in the property by the Josselyn family.
During his period at Ardleigh, he took an active part in the local community, serving on the Tendring District Council; his obituary in the local newspaper describes him as a "staunch Conservative and a good sportsman". Arthur died in 1932, his wife Alice surviving him at Ardleigh for a further twenty years. Arthur is commemorated in a churchyard plaque.
Descendants from Arthur are still living in Ardleigh, where his grandson, Peter, runs a nursery garden.
In the 1891 and 1901 censuses, she was living with or visiting her uncle Thomas Burton Steward in Great Yarmouth.
Mary died on the 17th January 1946 and her death notice appeared in 'The Times' of Monday Jan 21, 1946 (pg. 1);
Thomas George Hallum
|G1||Thomas Charles H.|
|Edward Josselyn H.|
|George Brooke H.|
|1878||Priest St Albans.|
|1877-78||Church of St Giles, Colchester.|
|1881-82||Asst chaplain of S.M. Home, Wantage.|
|1882-85||Curate of St John the Baptist Church, Buenos Ayres, (Falkland Islands Diocese).|
|1886-94||Vicar of St. Peter's Church, San Josť de Flores, Buenos Ayres.|
|1896-99||St Peter, Walworth, London.|
|1899-1901||St John Evangelist, E. Dulwich, London.|
|1901-02||Christ Church, Clapham, London.|
|1902-04||St Thomas, Stamford Hill, London.|
|1904-17||St Stephen, Lewisham, London.|
Augusta (Gussie), third daughter of Charles and Henrietta (Steward), married Arthur Lennox Robertson at St Paul's, Colchester on 1st August 1878 in a double wedding with her sister Elizabeth.
Her sister Mary's Birthday Book recorded this double marriage as "the first in their little Church"; the marriage announcement cited "by special licence". Her marriage, together with that of her sister Lissie, was announced in 'The Times' of Monday, 5th August 1878;
Arthur, the son of Rev John Robertson, had for a short period before this been the minister at St Giles. His clerical career covering a span of some forty years is listed in Crockford's Clerical Directory as follows (Ref 108); Gussie and Arthur had issue eight sons and two daughters, born in the various locations where Arthur's carreer had taken him;
Augusta Josselyn (1855- )|
Rev Arthur G Lennox Robertson
(Note that Arthur appears to have adopted Lennox Robertson as the surname.)
|Name||Age in 1901||Birthplace||Rel.||Occ.|
|Agusta Robertson||46||Colchester, Essex||Wife|
|Arthur G L Robertson||47||Slough, Buckinghamshire||Head||Clergyman|
|Mary H L Robertson||22||Caldecote, Bedfordshire||Daughter||Cooking Instructor|
|Francis I Robertson||20||Caldecote, Bedfordshire||Son||Commercial Clerk|
|Arthur W Robertson||18||Wantage, Berkshire||Son||Insurance Clerk|
|John S Robertson||17||Argentina||Son||Bank Clerk|
|George H Robertson||14||Argentina||Son|
|Ernest C L Robertson||8||Argentina||Son|
|Frederick Wm Robertson||6||Argentina||Son|
|James M Wigg||14||Argentina||Boarder|
|Emily Crosswell||16||Rotherhithe, London||Servant|
= 1 1878
Arthur Wade Cooper
(ca 1855 (Barnham, Suffolk) - 1897)
= 2 1900
|G1||Charles A. Wade Cooper|
(ca 1880, Oystermouth, Glamorganshire)
|Margaret Henrietta Cooper|
(ca 1881, Swansea, GLA)
|William A Wade Cooper|
(ca 1882, Swansea, GLA)
|Elizabeth Sybil Cooper/Siddons|
(ca 1893, Kilverstone, Norfolk)
Arthur died in 1897 (from BMD records, can't be 1891 as in John's story) and in 1900 Elizabeth married again to Geoffery Siddons at Thrapston, Huntingdonshire.
|Arthur W. Cooper||abt 1856||Burnham, Suffolk||Head|
|Elizabeth Cooper||abt 1856||Colchester, Essex||Wife|
|Charles H.W. Cooper||abt 1880||Oystermouth, Glamorgan||Son|
|Margaret H. Cooper||abt 1880||Swansea, Glamorgan||Dau|
|Alice James||abt 1862||Haverfordwest, Pembrokeshire||Servant|
|Annie Ridd||abt 1868||Swansea, Glamorgan||Servant|
|Sarah Toohey||abt 1858||Chatham, Surrey||Servant|
|Name||Age in 1891||Birthplace||Rel.|
|Cooper, Arthur Wade||35||Barnham, Suffolk||Head|
|Cooper, Elizabeth||35||Colchester, Essex||Wife|
|Cooper, Charles H Wade||11||Oystermouth, Glamorganshire||Son|
|Cooper, Margaret Henrietta||13||Swansea, Glamorganshire||Daughter|
|Cooper, William Arthur||9||Swansea, Glamorganshire||Son|
|Name||Age in 1901||Birthplace||Rel.|
|Elizabeth Siddons||45||Colchester, Essex||Wife|
|George Siddons||49||Oundle, Northamptonshire||Head|
|Sybil E Siddons||8||Kilverston, Thetford, Norfolk||Daughter|
|Emma Mayes||44||Aldwinkle, Northamptonshire||Servant|
|Florence M Pywell||17||Benefield, Northamptonshire||Servant|
|Suche Anne||Provision Merchants||1879||40||Roches Street|
|Suche E.||Provision Dealers||1886||60||Roches Street|
|Suche E.||Provision Dealers||1877||40||Roches Street|
|Suche E.||Provision Merchants||1875||40||Roches Street|
|Suche E.||Provision Merchants||1884||40||Roches Street|
|Suche E.||Provision Merchants||1880||40||Roches Street|
|Suche Ellen||Provision Dealers||1891||60||Roches Street|
|Suche Joseph||Unknown||1877||Wellesley Place|
|Suche Joseph||Unknown||1880||Wellesley Place|
|Suche Joseph||Unknown||1884||Wellesley Place|
|Suche Joseph||Stewards||1879||6||Wellesley Place, off Military Road|
Family story has it that the Suche origins were in France as Souchet where, at the time of the French Revolution, one of the boys, Peter Anthony Suchet, was smuggled out of the country to Greenwich, disguised as a girl, later settling at Limerick in Ireland, to establish the family in that country.
Joseph P Suche, son of Joseph Suche, was born in Ireland c.1829. (The IGI records have the baptism of a Joseph Suche of Cashel and Emly Diocese in 1793 and the marriage of this Joseph Suche with Eleanor Collins of Cashel and Emly in 1819; could these have been the parents of our Joseph?)
Joseph's marriage to Bertha was his second marriage; his first, in c 1861-2, was to an Irish girl, Charlotte, by whom he had a large family.
The first child of the first marriage, Charlotte, was born in Ireland c. 1863; thereafter the remainder of the children starting in 1865 were born in London (Kensington). The next seven children arrived at regular intervals of about one year until 1872 after which they had a further three/four children who died as infants until in Sept. 1878 Charlotte herself died, then aged 38 (Ref IGI Records).
= (1st marriage) c.1861
|(approx birth dates as established from 1881 census)|
The death of Alexander, is recorded in 'The Times' of 1 February, 1896: "Suche: On the 25th Jan 1896, ALEXANDER MCKENNA OSBORNE SUCHE, 4th son of the late Joseph Suche of City and Hampstead." (Note that he is described as the 4th, rather than the 3rd son).
During the period of this first marriage, the family appears to have run into financial problems; the firm of Joseph Suche and Co. Limited was placed in voluntary liquidation by the shareholders in January 1875. The assets being insufficient to settle all the debts, this led to a test case in the Court of Chancery regarding the entitlement of secured creditors to retrospective claim as a result of the Judiciary Act of 1875. The principal creditor was the National Bank which was owed some £40,000, secured on debentures, shares and a mortgage on a colliery. (This information was obtained by one of the family, a law student in Canada, who came across it whilst studying the standard law cases.)
Joseph Suche's second marriage was in 1879 to Bertha Josselyn, fifth daughter of Charles and Mary.
Their marriage was announced in 'The Times' 13th Nov. 1879 and the 'Essex County Standard' of the 15th Nov.;
(Note; at this time Arthur was the rector at Norhill, Bedfordshire).
They spent their honeymoon in Ireland 'to meet the family' after which they returned to London to be greeted by eight children, aged from 16 years downwards.
They resided then at 19 Minford Gardens, Kensington, London (current post code W14 0AP) and later removed to 25 Sumatra Rd, South Hampstead, London (post code NW6 11PS).
The present (as at 2001) occupant of 19 Minford Gardens, Mr Martin Kelly, writes;
One might have thought that a family of eight children was sufficient, but in fact they then proceeded to have a further six children during the next ten years by which time he would have been 60 years old. Joseph Suche died some three years later, in 1892, leaving a relatively young widow Bertha still being in her middle thirties with her six young children.
Joseph M Suche
The 1891 census also shows the two youngest sons of the first marriage, Alexander (aged 23, unmarried) and George (21, unm.) still living at home.
The offspring from these two marriages has spread far and wide throughout the world; little appears to be known of those from his first marriage (a topic for future research!) whilst the descendants from the second marriage, who have mostly remained in contact, will be followed in the next chapter.
(It is to Bertha and Joseph's great-granddaughter, the late Helen Green of New Zealand, that I am indebted for an appreciable amount of the information in this section, much of which she herself gleaned from her mother and from her aunt, now both in their eighties, as recounted to them by their mother Muriel Emily (Ferguson), daughter of Joseph and Bertha Suche.)
At Easter 1884 (13th April 1884) she was in Argentina where she was presented with a prayer book. The inscription in the prayer book says: "Eleanor Josselyn Easter / 84, Buenos Aires Sunday School from Mr Perry"
On 5 Aug 1884, Eleanor married Richard John Guy at Buenos Aires, (Eleanor was his second wife). Richard was the son of Francis Guy, a printer and publisher in Cork and Limerick.
Richard and Eleanor had a tragic history, living first in Argentina, where their youngest (second) son was killed, possibly by a horse which was ridden by Richard in an incident which left him severely injured. They then returned to England, living in Colchester for a couple of years and then emigrated to New Zealand. There they were farmers until they appeared to strike financial problems (possibly as a result of the financial crash of Argentina in 1890) and then moved to the West Coast where Richard became a gold miner. Eleanor died in childbirth in 1898 and both the Josselyns and Guys disowned the family, refusing to provide any financial support to the children.
Richard John Guy|
(abt 1857 - 1913)
|G1||John Canter Guy|
28 May 1885, Partido De Lincoln, Argentine
2 May 1887, Argentine
|Horace Seattle Guy|
27 August 1888, Colchester, England
|Thomas Gerald Guy|
12 May 1890, Taranaki, NZ
|Eleanor Kate "Nell" Guy|
24 September 1891, Taranaki, NZ
|Mary Henrietta Guy|
31 August 1893, Kumara, NZ
|Bertha Doris Guy|
7 December 1895, Kumara, NZ
|Josselyn "Jock" Guy|
14 March 1898, Kumara, NZ
Note that since John Hallum wrote the family history, considerable new information on the history of Eleanor and Richard has been uncovered.
Rather than extensively editing John's story, I have written a new history of Richard and Eleanor, incorporating sections of John's original story with the new information and including Richard's other marriages.
Charles was a solicitor, in 1891 the family were living at Creffield Road in Colchester and 1901 they were living at The Limes, London Road, Aldham, Essex (census data).
Rosalie Janet Josselyn|
|G1||George Edward T.|
|Arthur Frederick T.|
|Charles Josselyn T.|
|Hugh Steward T.|
|Timothy Steward T.|
(1890, d inf.)
Marion (May) Josselyn|
Frank Scarman Dymoke|
The previous holder became a hermit at Scrivelsby Court in his latter years, dieing there aged 84. More recently, due to the high upkeep costs, the family moved out of the mansion house to a smaller house on the estate.
( - )
|G1||Percy (Arthur?) Woollard|
By the time of this marriage, Charles Josselyn had been dead for some ten years and it appears that Mary was then residing at Upper Norwood; had she moved there to live with a daughter?